Twilight

Nov. 22nd, 2008 08:43 am
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Help me out.

I hear the books are more poorly written than Harry Potter (I didn't know that was possible) and more addictive than HP and crack combined. The movie trailer looks fab, but then..... sadly, I've read some commentary.

Moralistic vampire tales written by a Mormon. One kiss? NO SEX?? WTF?! Supposedly the whole thing is about suppressing the animal urges within. And premarital sex is an animal urge. And a sweet girl needs to be saved.... oh it hurts already.

I like premarital sex. Or I did. What's the deal? Would my brain explode in a conniption fit if I went to see this? Books first, then movie? Does it matter?

I want to know what everybody thinks: Mormons, abstainers, Pagans, feminists, Buffy lovers, Buffy haters (hiss!), etc.

Date: 2008-11-22 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It is difficult for me to comment because I despise vampires and will not read or watch anything with them.

I am torn because it's a movie set here and would normally want to see it but then there are vampires. To me, whether or not they have sex is no biggie, the fact that vampires are involved is the problem.

I'm also bitter bc allegedly the release of the next HP movie was delayed not to compete with it. Dumb.

And I love HP, so there. :-)

Date: 2008-11-22 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinya.livejournal.com
I haven't read the books, but the fans are absolutely insane.

One of the people on my friendslist has done funny summaries of all the books. The upshot is that the vampire love interest is incredibly creepy, the heroine is boring, and the writing is mediocre. And the abstinence only message is pretty in-your-face.

I've heard the movie is pretty bad unless you're already a fan of the books. I'm kind of morbidly curious about it, though.

Date: 2008-11-22 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodfever.livejournal.com
I haven't read the books.

BUT one of my besties has and she was SCATHING. She knew the author from her bad bad bad fan-fic and bought the book out of curiosity. It is currently making the rounds around our mutual friends and not a single person has anything better to say than "rofl *headdesk*" (using more words, of course).

Now, sometimes stupidity can be highly entertaining BUT in this case it also comes with numerous and supported allegations of flat-out plagiarism from the author's fellow fan-fic writers and that is NOT COOL.

Oh and I'm definitely from the Buffy/Anne Rice school of vampirism and if they can go out in the sun they just ain't vampires. End of story ;).
Edited Date: 2008-11-22 05:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-11-22 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jesamin.livejournal.com
Books first, wait for the movie until it's on cable. I love the books and I have no idea why. The movie was just bad.

Date: 2008-11-22 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowcalla.livejournal.com
Tracy and I are going tonight. It is a teenie-bopper movie so that's what we expect. But it looks like it will be visually stunning and I'm a sucker for vampire movies. Although I generally don't like "romantic" vampire movies - I like them nasty and violent and ugly.

Sex-loving feminist Christian here

Date: 2008-11-22 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amyura.livejournal.com
I hear the books are more poorly written than Harry Potter (I didn't know that was possible) and more addictive than HP and crack combined.

Hi there. Allow me to introduce you to Dan Brown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Brown).

I LOVED premarital sex. I loved living with my now-husband before we got married. I loved that when we did get married, it wasn't about, "Oh good, now we're married so we can have TEH SECKS," but more about all of the implications of marriage-- being Mrs. C________, merging our finances, being, as our vows said, "true to each other in good times and in bad."

I haven't read the books myself. I'm sure, giving the large following they have among the immature emo goth girls in my school, as well as the middle-school-aged daughters of my kids' babysitter, that they're about as well-written as the Baby-Sitters Club books. BUT.....the reviews I've read and heard have been mostly positive (while granting the high amount of teenage fluff) and I think that no-sex can be very sexy. Think about movies like The Age of Innocence or Sense and Sensibility.

Date: 2008-11-22 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] introducingyael.livejournal.com
...I think that's pretty awesome.
From: [identity profile] miss-ogyny.livejournal.com
after you watch Twilight watch the Episode of South Park called "Ungroundable" at southparkstudios.com hehe I thought it was funny

if your your having a need for vampire-ness you should watch the Underworld series with Kate Beckensail.

AND

Movies with Vampire Themes You should watch instead of Twilight:
1.) Underworld 1 and 2 Show down between werewolves and vampires...
2.) Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstien (This one has the whole gambit of Universal Picture monsters.)
3.) Werner Herzog's Nosferatu the Vampire. ( an remake of the 1922 version. You really should watch the original 1922 version THEN watch
4.) Shadow of the Vampire with William Defoe in which he plays the actor Max Schreck (who apparently is a real vampire) when filming the 1922 version.
5.) If you haven't already seen the orignal Buffy Vampire Slayer with Ms. Swanson then watch it...Oh hell watch it again that movie was bad ass!
6.) From Dusk Till Dawn Tarintino/Rodriguez vision of vampires.

Date: 2008-11-23 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barbles.livejournal.com
They do have sex. In the third book. Amazingly vivid animalistic insane headboard banging against the wall sex.

I liked the books. The writing was okay. I got sucked in by the love story. Because you know, as a girl you want someone to love you like that.

Date: 2008-11-23 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeyrider.livejournal.com
i have the books in a PDF if you're interested.

started reading the first last night and it's horribly written, very simplistic, and yet...all absorbing. i can't wait to read more today!

if they don't have sex i'll be seriously disappointed.

the only reason i care about the movie is because robert pattison is in it. i'm ashamed to admit that he's been my cradle robbing boy crush since he played cedric in an HP movie.

Date: 2008-11-24 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] howilearned.livejournal.com
as one of the few f the menfolk who have actually read the first book, I'll weigh in briefly.

The writing is low level romance novel at best. Cardboard characters. The heroine is a vapid, helpless, personality-less thing. She's the anti-buffy really.

That said, the book is strangely engrossing. At least until 2/3rds of the way through when it strikes you that NOTHING is happening. They talk about being a vampire for about 10 chapters straight.

I actually don't think JK Rowling is bad writer. Regardles she is a good storyteller. The odd thing about Twilight is that its engrossing, even though nothing happens. No real plot. Unlike say Dan Brown which is breakneck plot.

I'm curious about the movie because I'm always curious about adaptation. I think the screenwriter had their work cut out for them.



Date: 2008-11-25 12:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] queenofhalves
they are also vampire books in which a girl is valued for something other than her blood or her body. i enjoyed them.

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