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I wish I had never seen Twilight. It makes me angry and I'm angry that so many women don't see why I'm upset. Not being upset themselves, that I can understand. Loving the books or the movie, that I can see too. That women don't see why this story is damaging to women JUST KILLS ME. I would almost rather let my daughters (theoretical ones at this point) watch Disney princess cartoons than this heinous stuff.

I'm not singling this story out because the author is a Mormon, although I admit that I have deep (and somewhat irrational) issues with this religion, nor am I against abstinence. Not at all on that last point. I am very very much for women making informed and conscious choices about their bodies and sexuality, and if that means choosing to abstain until marriage - or for whatever time or reasoning - more power to them, because it is certainly not the easiest choice in our sex drenched society.

I'm not against protecting the ones you love, cheesy fantasy stories, power play in relationships, or being domestic. But Twilight takes all of those things and twists them, adding slightly modern touches of independence, but really it just rehashes all the messages of gender and relationships that main stream conservative religion wants us to believe.

This story disempowers women and I am deeply saddened that millions of young girls and women are now day dreaming of a relationship like Bella and Edward's. A relationship in which the woman's whole world is the man, where she can lose herself, and in effect not be responsible for the consequences. If the man is stronger willed, then she doesn't have to worry about stating her wants or boundaries or even worry about losing control sexually. Because the man will be the boundary keeper. If the man is the woman's whole world then she doesn't have to worry about making difficult choices beyond what will keep them together. If she's a 17 year old, with hormones surging through her body, then the first person she is (IRREVOCABLY) drawn to is the person she should marry. Because being married at 18 is a good idea* and the legal contract of marriage validates the sexual act. Millions of girls are watching men be the gatekeepers for Bella's sexuality and all other avenues of personal agency. Plus, she is 17. She does not even have legal agency yet. Millions of women are longing to be kept women.

And who can blame them? It would be easier in this day and age to just acquiesce and succumb to these messages. It's really fucking hard work to be a strong, loving, independent, smart woman. Finding balance between interdependence (notice the prefix there, please) and independence, freely giving of oneself and submission, work and family, self and others is exhausting even on the best of days. And let's not get into the more shallow, but in some ways more tricky and damaging, struggles between too thin and too fat, too prudish and too slutty, etc. For me, these struggles are most keenly felt in my spiritual journey and motherhood. Some days I really wish there was a clear formula that would make my spirit automatically connected up with God. If I just prayed X prayers Y many times, or if I did or was X, Y, Z then I would have the deep spiritual epiphany I long for. But that's not how it works. I don't believe there is a formula for touching God, so I put in the work. Just like I put in the work to find balance between my self, my wants, my needs and those of my husband's and my son's. Motherhood. I don't have the energy today to open that can of feminist confusion.

Suffice it to say, I am not surprised that women are sucked in by the "comforting" messages in Twilight. But it makes me sad. In that world, in this world, men/patriarchy** have the upper hand at the expense of the woman's interior world. Part of why Bella is so bland is that she has no interior world. No thoughts, just Edward.

These things make me sad. They make me angry. When I see women going along with the status quo, not questioning the images of identity and relationship that our culture holds up, I get upset. I really, truly, deeply care about the lives and identities of girls and women.


*To my younger friends here, I recognize that some people find a good match at an early age and I think that is wonderful. But having a healthy, lasting relationship with a teenage sweetheart is the exception, not the norm. Encouraging people to marry young is, in my opinion (which is never very humble), an antiquated, anti-feminist agenda.

**I fear that I need to say that individual men are not necessarily tools of the patriarchy. I think there are plenty of women (Stephanie Meyer!) who are more patriarchal than some men. I am a radical feminist, but not a separatist (although some days....) nor do I hate men. God, it makes me sad that I even feel it necessary to type this sort of disclaimer in my own freaking journal.

Date: 2009-04-08 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyartemisa.livejournal.com
i would make out with you so hard right now if you were closer.

I have so many issues with this whole story.

Edward is a creepy controlling fuck and he changes in the books... so many claim that this just shows how she grows but really what it tells me is "if you stay with that controlling abuseive asshole long enough he will just change for you because he loves you and you can totally change him" and that is OMG BAD NEWS for yong women to learn.

Date: 2009-04-08 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raving-liberal.livejournal.com
You touched on the very (main) issue that makes me unwilling to read this series.

Date: 2009-04-08 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seaivy.livejournal.com
just to say I hear you.
The "Prince Charming will protect me" fantasy is alive and well. Interesting that Bella is 17 - not legally of age. It's an "I don't have to grow up and be a responsible woman" fantasy.

Date: 2009-04-08 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-malloreee.livejournal.com
I havn't seen this movie, or read the books but my mom keeps telling me their both great.

I don't know how to say this... but, I think I am the spitting image of everything you hate (for lack of better word) & this is so interesting to me!

Date: 2009-04-09 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinya.livejournal.com
I'm puzzled as to why you watched the movie in the first place, actually.

Date: 2009-04-09 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amyura.livejournal.com
I agree SO hard. With everything, and I do mean everything, you posted.

Date: 2009-04-09 08:34 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bravenewcentury.livejournal.com
I think you have successfully killed any lingering desire I had to find out what Twilight was like for myself. Everything I read about it makes my skin crawl.

Date: 2009-04-09 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeyrider.livejournal.com
i just want to make one more comment on the subject and then i'll shut up. i don't *identify* as a feminist per se, but i think along the feminist lines and i care about the lives and identities of girls and women as well. if nothing else, i have a daughter to raise and it's in my utmost interest to guide her to become a strong independent woman.
i think "twilight" does reinforce traditional gender roles, at times it does so forcibly [such as the marriage before sex for bella], BUT, to say that you're saddened by the idea of women now dreaming of a relationship like edward's and bella's does not acknowledge that a woman does not have to be a thoughtless vapid tool in order to dream of such a relationship. there are plenty of opinionated, thoughtful women [many of my friends for example] who want a man to take charge and take care of them. i'll never forget when an amazing female friend of mine was telling me about her relationship with a man she was seeing and stressing how much joy she drew from his stereotypically manly characteristics. she said something along the lines of "timeless image of a man on top of a woman" and it stuck with me ever since because it was the first time in my life that an incredibly liberated, intelligent, opinionated and confident woman was expressing her satisfaction in a way that might make a feminist cringe. to me, "feminism" doesn't deny recognizing that gender difference are real. it doesn't mean that men and women shouldn't be equal, but there's an inherent differences between the two genders and while those differences are affirmed by society, often to an unhealthy degree, they are not simply social construct. to deny gender differences is reverse discrimination of sorts. it rears girls who are afraid to tune into an inherently feminine aspect of themselves; afraid that other women will scream "you're a tool!"
the drive to rid society of traditional femininity in the name of equality makes me just as sad and angry as the misogynistic stupidity i see on TV. there's a happy medium to be found somewhere. but this no longer has much to do with twilight. sorry for ranting.

Edited to correct my grammar because it's been bothering me for 2 hours now.
Edited Date: 2009-04-09 06:00 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-09 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Agreed!

Date: 2009-04-10 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calizen.livejournal.com
I still cringe every time I hear a woman say "I'm not a feminist but..." It makes me think that many women believe that if they take up that title, it puts them in the bull's eye for being spit on. What is a feminist? To me it's someone who believes in the inherent strength and dignity of women and who will stand up against anyone who puts women down -- or worse -- simply because they are women. And if that means standing up for all facets of what makes us all human - men and women - and not some traditional ideas, well more power to that as well.

Date: 2009-04-10 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eelsalad.livejournal.com
Rock on with your bad self! I am throwing the horns so hard over here that I may strain something.

As an aside, whenever someone says "I'm not a feminist, but..." I point them to Yes, You Are (http://tomatonation.com/?p=677), a great essay on the subject. It rules.

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