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I wish I had never seen Twilight. It makes me angry and I'm angry that so many women don't see why I'm upset. Not being upset themselves, that I can understand. Loving the books or the movie, that I can see too. That women don't see why this story is damaging to women JUST KILLS ME. I would almost rather let my daughters (theoretical ones at this point) watch Disney princess cartoons than this heinous stuff.

I'm not singling this story out because the author is a Mormon, although I admit that I have deep (and somewhat irrational) issues with this religion, nor am I against abstinence. Not at all on that last point. I am very very much for women making informed and conscious choices about their bodies and sexuality, and if that means choosing to abstain until marriage - or for whatever time or reasoning - more power to them, because it is certainly not the easiest choice in our sex drenched society.

I'm not against protecting the ones you love, cheesy fantasy stories, power play in relationships, or being domestic. But Twilight takes all of those things and twists them, adding slightly modern touches of independence, but really it just rehashes all the messages of gender and relationships that main stream conservative religion wants us to believe.

This story disempowers women and I am deeply saddened that millions of young girls and women are now day dreaming of a relationship like Bella and Edward's. A relationship in which the woman's whole world is the man, where she can lose herself, and in effect not be responsible for the consequences. If the man is stronger willed, then she doesn't have to worry about stating her wants or boundaries or even worry about losing control sexually. Because the man will be the boundary keeper. If the man is the woman's whole world then she doesn't have to worry about making difficult choices beyond what will keep them together. If she's a 17 year old, with hormones surging through her body, then the first person she is (IRREVOCABLY) drawn to is the person she should marry. Because being married at 18 is a good idea* and the legal contract of marriage validates the sexual act. Millions of girls are watching men be the gatekeepers for Bella's sexuality and all other avenues of personal agency. Plus, she is 17. She does not even have legal agency yet. Millions of women are longing to be kept women.

And who can blame them? It would be easier in this day and age to just acquiesce and succumb to these messages. It's really fucking hard work to be a strong, loving, independent, smart woman. Finding balance between interdependence (notice the prefix there, please) and independence, freely giving of oneself and submission, work and family, self and others is exhausting even on the best of days. And let's not get into the more shallow, but in some ways more tricky and damaging, struggles between too thin and too fat, too prudish and too slutty, etc. For me, these struggles are most keenly felt in my spiritual journey and motherhood. Some days I really wish there was a clear formula that would make my spirit automatically connected up with God. If I just prayed X prayers Y many times, or if I did or was X, Y, Z then I would have the deep spiritual epiphany I long for. But that's not how it works. I don't believe there is a formula for touching God, so I put in the work. Just like I put in the work to find balance between my self, my wants, my needs and those of my husband's and my son's. Motherhood. I don't have the energy today to open that can of feminist confusion.

Suffice it to say, I am not surprised that women are sucked in by the "comforting" messages in Twilight. But it makes me sad. In that world, in this world, men/patriarchy** have the upper hand at the expense of the woman's interior world. Part of why Bella is so bland is that she has no interior world. No thoughts, just Edward.

These things make me sad. They make me angry. When I see women going along with the status quo, not questioning the images of identity and relationship that our culture holds up, I get upset. I really, truly, deeply care about the lives and identities of girls and women.


*To my younger friends here, I recognize that some people find a good match at an early age and I think that is wonderful. But having a healthy, lasting relationship with a teenage sweetheart is the exception, not the norm. Encouraging people to marry young is, in my opinion (which is never very humble), an antiquated, anti-feminist agenda.

**I fear that I need to say that individual men are not necessarily tools of the patriarchy. I think there are plenty of women (Stephanie Meyer!) who are more patriarchal than some men. I am a radical feminist, but not a separatist (although some days....) nor do I hate men. God, it makes me sad that I even feel it necessary to type this sort of disclaimer in my own freaking journal.

Date: 2009-04-10 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeyrider.livejournal.com
I still cringe every time I hear a woman say "I'm not a feminist but..." It makes me think that many women believe that if they take up that title, it puts them in the bull's eye for being spit on.

i don't know about other women, but i do not like labels/titles. of course i believe in the inherent strength and dignity of women and will stand up against those who put women down. however, i felt no need to scream I'M A FEMINIST! one does not need to wear a label in order to identify with the thought and actions you speak of. just saying. :)

Date: 2009-04-10 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calizen.livejournal.com
I understand your view. But what you see as a label, I see as a badge. And I guess I like the badge.

Date: 2009-04-11 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readthisandweep.livejournal.com

*But what you see as a label, I see as a badge. And I guess I like the badge.

Absolutely! And speaking as a woman in her sixties, the badge has, at times, been hard won. I wear my Feminist badge with pride!

Date: 2009-04-11 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calizen.livejournal.com
Me too. I even have a t-shirt that says, "This is what a feminist looks like." Which makes my 27 year old son cringe. (Makes me laugh to see his reaction)

Date: 2009-04-11 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewigweibliche.livejournal.com
Oh my goodness! I've wanted one of those tshirts for a while. [livejournal.com profile] hrafntinna gave me a tank top that reads "The show is upstairs" - only loosely related in theme, I know. I can't wait to fit into that tank top again some day!
Edited Date: 2009-04-11 02:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-11 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calizen.livejournal.com
Hah! I love that! (Yeah, my t-shirt looks like I'm busting out of it. A few less brownies here)

Date: 2009-04-11 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readthisandweep.livejournal.com

The anonymous comment is from me - I forgot to log on...

It's what old feminists do!!!

Date: 2009-04-11 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calizen.livejournal.com
Oldies but goodies. (That's my take and I'm sticking to it)

Date: 2009-04-11 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readthisandweep.livejournal.com

Absolutely. I still have a couple of old badges from the seventies.

* Wicked Witches Were Invented By Frightened Men
* You Can't Beat A Woman (courtesy, Women's Aid)

I recall many of the old slogans with affection, even though they now must seem old hat to younger women. I particularly liked these:

* Call me Ms
* Be The Girl You Are, Not The Doll You're Sold
* I'll Be A Post-Feminist In The Post-Patriarchy
* Sisterhood Is Powerful

Date: 2009-04-11 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calizen.livejournal.com
I love my husband, my son and my male friends.

But there's a specialness with women close to me. Sisterhood is indeed powerful (although granted there are some wicked stepsisters running around there)

Date: 2009-04-11 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readthisandweep.livejournal.com

Me too! I adore the wonderful men in my life, (I have two sons & many fine male friends) but I can still be a damn fine feminist too!

We used to sometimes say, (& I tend to do so rather more often these days) "Sisterhood is powerful, it can kill you..."

I believe it was the wonderful feminist poet, Robin Morgan who first coined that one.

Date: 2009-04-11 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calizen.livejournal.com
Right you are. Robin Morgan.

Date: 2009-04-11 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Now there's a thing... today I sent off my order for a "This Is What A Feminist Looks Like" tee-shirt! Something I've been meaning to do eversince they first came out.

I've gone for hot pink! If I intend making a statement, I'd prefer it to be a loud one! :)

Date: 2009-04-11 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calizen.livejournal.com
Well THAT will send them back a few steps, won't it.

And me with big boobs, oh the poor dears just stand stock still and stare at something other than just me.

Date: 2009-04-10 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewigweibliche.livejournal.com
This isn't about labels. Not claiming to call one's self a feminist when one is is cowardly. Labels that apply to me: woman, American, Australian, Alaskan, pagan, Christian, feminist, mother..... All labels, all identifiers. To claim an identity for one's self doesn't mean screaming it from the roof tops. I don't go around yelling about being an American, or a feminist.

Date: 2009-04-10 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeyrider.livejournal.com
what can i say? i'm not a fan of neatly pre-packaged identities.

also, i find that people are more open to listen if you express your ideas and what you believe in whereas they tend to close down if you throw labels around. partially you can thank the militant feminists for that. as you said in another comment, militant anygroup are the loud obnoxious asshats who fuck everything up.

also also, i find that attitude matters much more than the word.

if all this makes me coward in the eyes of some so be it. i know what i am and what i am not and that's good enough for me.

also also also, the screaming "i'm a feminist" portion of the comment was hyperbole. :]

Date: 2009-04-11 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewigweibliche.livejournal.com
I got the hyperbole, yo. ;)

Date: 2009-04-11 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readthisandweep.livejournal.com
In my expereince, women under a certain age often don't recognise they are feminists; that their actions & political positions mark them thus regardless of their perceptions of themselves.

The essence of feminism has become lost in media misinformation. And in some cases, it is women themselves, afraid (for a myriad reasons) to own the badge/title/label, call it what you will, who have colluded in the crime.

And it feels that serious to me. In my world, so long as one little girl is still having her clitoris cut off, we so need the feminist movement. (And don't anyone dare to tell me it's the women who do the cutting. I KNOW IT IS. It's the patriarchal power behind this fact that sickens me.)
Edited Date: 2009-04-11 11:10 am (UTC)

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